chirpofjoy asked: Regardless, I agree with you on the whole don't just a series by what the fans are making it out to be. Refusing to experience something simply because of the fans is sort of a bullshit way of saying I am super prejudiced and am too lazy.
You get it. Good.
chirpofjoy asked: Oh I do not subject innocent books/movies/shows to "I won't read/watch you because I don't want to be like those crazy fans". That's not the things fault. That would be horribly prejudiced of me to do that. It's the refusing to read/watch something because it's just pervading every aspect of your existence. I see now that you weren't technically referring to what I'm talking about, I just wanted to clarify given that I have mentally blacklisted some things until I am not sick of them.
Yeah. Backing off from things that have pervaded its way into your life far too much is likely a good thing.
That is essentially what happened with me and Glee. I became fed up with things inside and outside of the show that related back to it and have not watched it since before the return of Sam, which I have only noticed is a thing that happened via Tumblr graphics and gifs.
Subjecting innocent media to that same treatment is my aforementioned pet peeve.
lorddaiggsta replied to your post: If The Avengers Cinematic Universe goes all the…
I like that idea. But with the current Tony Stark?
There are still several movies in which we can see character development of Tony Stark to make him more mature and give him reasons to want to follow the Registration Law. On the other side of that, Steve Rogers might currently be a bit too naive and too much of a follower of the government. He still believes in the patriotic ideals of the 40’s. If Civil War is to work, we’ll need to see both of them change quite a bit in order to take their rightful sides.
Perhaps Iron Patriot in Iron Man 3 is the beginning of this change in Tony?
If The Avengers Cinematic Universe goes all the way to The Avengers 3 and that’s its final movie, I think that the “Civil War” story line would be perfect to put in there.
Particularly given how it ends for Captain America.
This is Joss Whedon we’re talking about. Would you expect anything less than to have your heart wrenched out?
secret internet thoughts while everyone’s sleeping:
isn’t there a difference between justice/rightness/fairness/equality and simply having things go howsoever you want them?
or is this something lost on teenagers on the internet?
chirpofjoy asked: Concerning "people who hate or are unwilling to try something because of its associated fandom", there are plenty of things Tumblr has ruined for me before I even watched it. It's not that I'm unwilling, it's that if I hear one more thing about that particular thing then I will implode simply because I was overexposed to it. There aren't any books I haven't read that the rest of Tumblr has that have been ruined for me. But, like, Harry Potter and I are on a hiatus at the moment.
Well, I can understand being overloaded on a thing, especially if that thing is something that you loved and cherished and, basically, has had it’s time, like HP. HP will always be around, but there nothing (in the near future) new about it so we need to find new things to fill that void.
But what I mean in re “people who hate or are unwilling to try something because of its associated fandom” is a bit different than that.
I’ll use one fandom as an example and omit the name of that particular fandom that I’m talking about because some blacklisters may need to see this, but of course we all know which one I mean.
I have seen so many posts that say “I don’t want to read it because of the fans” or “I’m going to regret reading it because of those crazy fans” or “I’ve read it but I refuse to be associated with the fans” or even “I really want to read it, but the fans terrify me so I’m conflicted.”
Of those four statements, only the third one makes any amount of sense. This thing that I’m talking about has a VERY good storyline and the technical mechanics of it all are VERY wonderful and a little groundbreaking, I think. Stories of this type are going to be invariably changed by the technical mechanics of this one thing.
Say I handed someone a copy of Hamlet and they outright refused to read it because of the “Shakespeare fandom full of teenagers who take Romeo & Juliet seriously and compare their relationships to that one in earnest.” I would be completely free to call that person an idiot and no one would call me on it.
Now, of course, I am by no means comparing this one thing to Shakespeare when it has characters WHO TYP3 L1K3 TH1S and LiKe ThIs, but I think that gets my point across.
Why would you refuse to read something that people are telling you is good and likely right up your alley just because you hate a certain group of people who happen to like that thing?
You know what that is? Elitism, snobbery, and pretentiousness.
Saying that you hate something solely because of its fans is like saying a movie was shit because the people in the theater talked too loudly. You know what you should do in that case? Leave the fucking theater, wait a few months to rent that movie on DVD, and watch it in the privacy of your own home, AWAY FROM THE SCREAMING FANS.
If that metaphor doesn’t do it for you, then I’ll spell it out. Read that one thing that you’re scared to try because of the fans in private without telling anyone. Even if you like a thing, there is NO bylaw that says you need to jump into the deep end of the fandom pool.
Don’t let other people ruin what could be a very wonderful experience for you.
YOU GUYS, IT’S OFFICIALLY JUNE!!!
No
You don’t understand
VIDCON IS THIS MONTH!!!!!!!!
